10/14/2011

Rinnai RC80HPi Indoor Natural Gas Condensing Tankless Water Heater, 8.1 GPM Review

Rinnai RC80HPi Indoor Natural Gas Condensing Tankless Water Heater, 8.1 GPM
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This is the second tankless unit I've installed (the first was a Rheem unit bought at HD) and by far the easier of the two to install. The main differences between this and the Rheem - with a condensing unit you need to plumb in a condensing pump. The Rheem unit has an external keypad that has to be wired while the Rinnai's control unit is built into the face. And the most significant is the plastic duct in the Rinnai rather than the stainless steel for the Rheem. This unit conveniently comes with a full-size paper diagram to determine placement of the unit which is a plus. Everything is fairly straight forward - however the installation manual really isn't written for a consumer while the Rheem unit is written with step-by-step instructions that are easier to understand. The Rinnai manual boils down to safety verbiage and a schematic-like diagram. If I hadn't already installed one I think it would have been more difficult to do so, but I already understood the context from the previous install - this pushed my rating downward. This unit is normally installed by Rinnai crews via their system of certified installers - so I'm assuming the manual is written with them in mind rather than a casual consumer - something to keep in mind.
The default thermostat setting will probably be too low for most US residents - I upped it to 120 degrees. Due to some extra piping the hot water takes longer to get to the spigot - the only thing my wife complains about. Otherwise it's hot and continuous, just as advertised. There are only two of us in a 2400 sq ft home with 2 full baths. In the summer my gas bill is around $33 and fairly consistent (most of the bill is made up of the regular monthly minimum charges). After installation my bills went to $27 so having the unit has decreased by gas usage. My previous water heater was a 50 gallon tanked unit that was installed in the mid 90s (so about 15 years old). I replaced it due to leaking. The hardest part of the install was getting through the block wall and really, it wasn't that bad.
One thing to consider is your exhaust pipe run - the units that require stainless steel can make this part of the install quite expensive. Due to the plastic piping that can be used with condensing units, you can save quite a lot of the costs by going this route (more expensive unit but cheaper ducting). If you have a long run from the unit placement to an outside wall,this can be significant.

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* Qualifies For Federal Tax Credit * ENERGY STAR qualified * Up to 95% thermal efficiency * Condensing technology for greater efficiency and significant energy savings * Capacity to supply continuous hot water simultaneously to multiple plumbing demands * Significant space savings over tank-style water heaters * More sanitary hot water * Long-lasting design and reduced risk of flooding * Available in Natural Gas or Propane(email for LP availability * Flexible indoor installation options * Meets California and Texas NOx Emission Rules * 12-year heat exchanger limited warranty for residential installations (5 years on parts, 1 year on labor) * Pair up with an air handler for efficient home heating

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10/13/2011

First Alert WA100-3 Water Alarm, 3-Pack Review

First Alert WA100-3 Water Alarm, 3-Pack
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We had a minor flood in our garage and the water detector we had was too old and didn't warn us. I purchased these detectors and find them to be good items. The alarm is loud, although I don't think you would hear it through a closed door. The detecting mechanism is on the bottom and requires that you stand it upright. If it got knocked over, it wouldn't work. The detector unit can be seperated and placed by itself, however you would need to place a small weight on top to keep it in contact with the ground. All in all though, a good value for the money and it will do the job.

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This 3 Pack First Alert Water Alarm Protects homes from water damage due to leaks, floods and seepage. Ideal uses: basements, garages, laundry rooms, bathrooms, hot tubs. Place near sump pump, washing machine, water heater, sinks, toilets. Water sensor attaches to bottom of unit or can extend 6 feet to remote location. Loud 85dB alarm sounds when unit senses water (lasts up to 72 hrs). Splash and water resistant. The Water Alarm WA100-3 Features: Sensor attaches to bottom of unit or can extend 6 feet away. Loud 85dB alarm sounds when unit senses water. Alarm continues for up to 72 hrs. Splash and water resistant. 1 9v battery per alarm. (included) Operates in 32 to 120 degrees F, 80% RH. 2 Year Warranty.Package includes: 3 WA100 water sensors and 3 9v batteries.First Alert Water Sensor WA100-3

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10/12/2011

Thermwell Prods. Co. SP60 Frost King Water Heater Insulation Jacket Review

Thermwell Prods. Co. SP60 Frost King Water Heater Insulation Jacket
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1. Measure the tank's height. Mark the foil side with a magic marker, then cut the wrap on the floor. It's near impossible do it with the wrap on the tank. There are foil tabs to secure the wrap to the top of the tank . . . make sure you cut the correct side. I found that scissors worked just fine to cut it.
2. My gas water heater is only thirty gallons. The width of the wrap did not need adjustment - it just fit. The description says it fits up to 60 gallon size. I can't see how. Some other reviewer with a larger tank will have to comment on this.
3. Use the measurement of the tank's height and pre-cut a length of tape this size. Next, cut four 6" pieces - these will be used to tape the sides of the wrap together. Finally, cut the remaining tape into 4" strips for use in taping the tabs on the top of the wrap to the tank. I had enough tape for my small tank. Other reviewers complained that there is not enough tape. If in doubt, buy a small roll of foil tape when you buy the wrap.
4. If you have a gas water heater, position the wrap so that the connecting parts are on the front. On my heater, the loose end tucked neatly behind the gas line and valve.
5. Tape the top with two 4" pieces where the two sides meet. Then pull the foil sides together from the top down using the 6" pieces to tape across the meeting point. Finally, use the long piece of tap to tape it once more vertically.
6. Cut out a section of the wrap on the bottom at least 3" away from the burner assembly. You want to stay warm, not cause a fire.
7. Finish off by taping the top with the remaining 4" pieces of tape making sure you don't go anywhere near the flue.
The Frost King make is reasonable quality. It's available from your local hardware store, Home Depot or Lowe's at a better price as Amazon . . . plus no shipping cost.


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10/11/2011

Bosch AQ4 Water Heater Vent Kit Review

Bosch AQ4 Water Heater Vent Kit
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I have to say, why would there be so many "USED" kits available? I went to a service call where the plumber actually caused a fire by installing one of these improperly. It's not that difficult. When you are considering installing one of these, first consider the total cost of the 125 series heater and the vent cost and you are up around the cost of many other brands which are already power vented and have far more advanced features. The 125 series Bosch water heaters are little work horses but must be maintained. The fan housings in the AQ must be cleaned s they can and do load up with dust, dirt and provide habitat for nesting insects. The average homeowner is going to have a hard time installing this, even plumbers who have installed Bosch water heaters will shy away from these kits in favor of internal power vent models. This is like putting rubber tires on a covered wagon. Due diligence is worth every minute spent before mis-spending you $$$

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AQ4 Sidewall Power Vent Kit â¤" For use with tankless water heaters TV # 734077 (1600H NG ) and TV # 734063 (1600H LP). Kit, Includes Power Vent Motor, Vent Termination Hood With Freeze Prevention Flapper, Tube of High Temperature Sealant to Seal Pipe Seams, 5" To 4" Vent Reducer, Water Flow Activation Switch & Tubing, Control Cables, Mounting Hardware, Vibration Isolation Bushings, Linear Spill Switch, Instructions & Termination Template, Allows Safe Horizontal Venting Up To 25 feet with a Discreet 8" Outside Termination Hood. 45 Second Post Purge & Linear Safety Switch, Power Input 120V & 1.4A With 3 prong grounded Cord, Maximum Vent Distance 25 feet With 1 Elbow, Minimum Vent Distance 2 foot Straight Pipe Before Fan, Maximum Elbows 3 At 90 Degrees & 6 At 45 Degrees, 4 inch Vent Diameter, Vent Material can be 26 gauge single wall, Not Included In AQ4 Kit, CSA Approved.

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10/09/2011

TITAN SCR2 N120 Electric Tankless Water Heater Review

TITAN SCR2 N120 Electric Tankless Water Heater
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Nice product and once I worked out the wiring and circuit breaker needs it seems to work very well. I hooked it up to the current hoy water heater wiring and fuse only to find it needs a 60 amp fuse and 6 gage wiring from fuse block to heater..This was not too expensive because my heater is only a few feet from the fuse box the wire is $2 per foot and a new fuse was $8 so it added $50 to my bill and an hour running the wire through the crawl space. It does appear to work as promised, nice hot water instantly after connected.

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10/08/2011

Rheem Outdoor Liquid Propane Tankless Water Heater for 2-3 Bathroom Homes - RTG-66XP Review

Rheem Outdoor Liquid Propane Tankless Water Heater for 2-3 Bathroom Homes - RTG-66XP
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We have a 2200 sq foot home which had the hot water tank 40 feet from the kitchen and 70 feet from the master bath so it always took a full minute and many wasted gallons of water to get something hot. With the floor plan relocating an indoor tank to the center of the house was not ideal though the indoor tankless would have been an option but I did not want to deal with the work of the air intake and chimney install.
The information on the Rheem outdoor tankless was mixed and stated that is was good to -30 and yet elsewhere I saw it listed at 30. That said, the -30 was on their website so we decided to go with it. Upon receiving it and the additional grey pipe cover which was not sold here at Amazon. I did find and buy it at Wholesale America and it is definitely something you'll need to make this a clean install.
SKU: RTG20169XG Weight: 9 lbs Rheem RTG20169XG Grey Pipe Covers for the RTG66-X $64.29
After installing my pipes, gas and electric I insulated this cover with hard Styrofoam and of course also ran a heat tape on the pipes coming out and going in. In mounting this tank to the house, I stayed low and used a 2.5" hole saw to make 5 holes through to the crawl space which will allow more of that warmth to access the now insulated pipe cover.
It is still early November in Kansas and if any problems develop during the colder parts of winter, I will update this posting.
As far as the tank and how it works, it is wonderful! We are using propane from a 1000 gallon tank and as with most of these installs, the tank has a first stage regulator and then at the house is a second stage. We have a gas furnace, dryer, stove and now this higher Btu hot water tank so I was naturally concerned that I might need to install a tee and place a second second stage regulator at the house and then run a dedicated line to the new water heater. I opted to try and tap into the lines using the appropriate flex pipe for high volume and it worked out just fine with only the one regulator. We tested this by running the furnace, dryer, oven and burners while running hot water. By holding a meat thermometer in the stream of hot water while the tank thermostat was set at 120F, I had a steady reading of 119 and when set at 130 I had 129 which means one or the other of these is off a wee little bit but the tank produces the hot water as it should! How cool is that?
With regard to the remote thermostat that you'll get with this... it only goes up to 120F until you bypass that if you want to go to 125, 130, 135 or 140. The instruction sheet that came with our tank was confusing and instructed me to open the tank cover and switch a dip switch and push a button and watch for a flashing light etc. Please don't waste your time!! I called their 800 number and talked to somebody in 'trouble shooting' and she instructed me to simply go to the thermostat and with it set at 120, hold the 'temp up' key until 140 pops up. Then I think she said to hold both up and down keys and that would lock me into the higher temp settings. You can then adjust in 5 degree increments and we chose 130 because we have a dishwasher and no little ones in the house.
The unit works well delivering endless supplies of hot water and is very quiet not that it matters outside!


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