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3/05/2012

Rheem Tankless Water Heater RTG-74XP-1, Outdoor Use Review

Rheem Tankless Water Heater RTG-74XP-1, Outdoor Use
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Love my units...We installed 2 RTG 74 units outside and have 4.5 baths, Even with house guests (4 teen girls) showering at once, we had ample hot water to run the dishwasher. We have the propane model and have a super low electric and gas bill. Highly recommend them!!!

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2/18/2012

RHEEM 50 Gallon FVR Propane Water Heater 6YR 22V50F1P Review

RHEEM 50 Gallon FVR Propane Water Heater 6YR 22V50F1P
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Recieved product 10 days late, damaged. POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE at Buy Plumbing. NEVER used product but had cold water for LOOONG time. Will NEVER order from Buy Plumbing again.

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12/20/2011

Bosch 2400ES LP AquaStar 6.4-GPM Indoor Tankless Liquid Propane Water Heater Review

Bosch 2400ES LP AquaStar 6.4-GPM Indoor Tankless Liquid Propane Water Heater
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I bought the Bosch 2400ES because of the excellent reputation enjoyed by Bosch.
The good points regarding this water heater -
- Its operation is very economical as it uses very little propane. I have given it a star to recognize its economy.
The bad points regarding this water heater -
- The water heater shuts down and restarts frequently. This leads to invigorating showers as it alternately produces about 90 seconds of hot water, then about 60 seconds of cold water. Based on what the service techs have told me and the troubleshooting methods they provided, it seems that the unit overheats, shuts down, and restarts after it cools down. The best guess is that the temperature of my incoming water is too high, and the water heater is not capable of heating a little. Being in Hawaii, my incoming water temperature is about 70 degrees. If you get your water as runoff from a glacier, you may find it works just fine.
- The water heater demands a fairly high rate of water flow to activate. This means that it does not activate to heat water when running our Whirlpool washing machine. To get hot water into the washer requires turning on a hot water tap and letting it run long enough for the water to heat, and keeping the tap on as long as the washer is filling. Likewise, the flow into our Bosch dishwasher is too low to activate the water heater. This means the internal (electric) water heater in the dishwasher works to bring the water to the necessary temperature, wasting electricity.
- It is slow to fire up. This means that, when handwashing dishes or the like, if you turn off the hot water you will get get cold water for a spell after the hot water sitting in the pipe has flowed out. As a result, you need to leave the hot water running continuously for such activities. I could understand a brief bit of cold water, but we are talking about 10 to 15 seconds of cold each time the hot water is turned off.
- The water heater uses approximately 5 watts of electricity continuously, more when the exhaust blower is operating. This amount of electric usage is ridiculous and goes far to offset the claimed efficiency.
My experiences with this and my Bosch dishwasher have completely disillusioned me on Bosch appliances and I will avoid them in the future.

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11/24/2011

Eccotemp 40H-NG Outdoor Gas Tankless Water Heater, 135,000 British Thermal Unit Review

Eccotemp 40H-NG Outdoor Gas Tankless Water Heater, 135,000 British Thermal Unit
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Was very pleased with this water heater, came and did not need a lot of extra stuff to install. Works wonderful and now I am sure I am saving on gas ever time a use it.

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Stop throwing away money each and every month with your old inefficient storage tank water heater! It is time to switch to an Eccotemp tankless water heater. The Eccotemp 40H is one of the most affordable and reliable true whole house tankless water heaters on the market! Rated at 6.3 GPM, it is the ideal choice for a 3 bedroom, 2 bath home. Why Eccotemp Tankless Water Heaters? Energy Efficiency: Saving you money each and every month. Instead of a standing pilot light, gas is only used when there is a demand for hot water. This will result in most homes of an average savings of 20-40% off of your utility bill Saving Space: Weighing only 38 pounds and about the size of a briefcase, you will free up an average of 9 square feet of floor space - adding to the value of your home! Reliability: Eccotemp 40 series water heaters come with a 10 year warranty on the heat exchanger and an average life expectancy of 20 years. And, since there is no standing water, you will never have to worry about a ruptured tank again! Consult with your home owners insurance on additional rebates. Technical Specs and data: * Gas Type: Natural Gas * Gas Inlet: 3/4 inch * Water Inlet: 1/2 inch * Water Outlet: 1/2 inch * Power Supply: 110 volt * Energy Factor: 0.83 * Indoor mount Flow Chart/Temperature Rise/Delta T: * 35 Degrees F: 6.0 GPM * 45 Degrees F: 4.57 GPM (avg. rise in most Southern climates) * 65 Degrees F: 3.82 GPM (avg. rise in most Northern climates) * 77 Degrees F: 2.6 GPM

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11/10/2011

Navien NR-240A (CR-240A) Tankless Hot Water Heater with Circulating Pump and Buffer Tank Review

Navien NR-240A (CR-240A) Tankless Hot Water Heater with Circulating Pump and Buffer Tank
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First: the Navien NR-series tankless has only been in service since Oct 2009, so the 2yr+ ownership reviews were done on the CR-series. The CR-series did have issues which were addressed in warranty fixes and massively updated on the NR-series. Second: do your research. I replaced my 17yr old A.O. Smith gas tank with the Navien NR-240A. The NR met my criteria of long warranty, EF, min GPM (zero). It didn't hurt either that I was getting the governments credit either, so I went to energystar.gov to do a lot of research heavy lifting. The "A" model included a small buffer tank (to eliminate the "cold sandwich") and a built in circulation pump. Make sure your plumber (or if you DYI) installs recirculation T's at the longest runs (in my case, master bathroom). Combinded with the built-in circulation pump, this will also eliminate the time it takes to get hot water to your facet (example: from 60sec to 5sec). Do not go with marketing fluff from other manufacturers (such as "market leader", "brand leader", etc...), go with what you need and what your criteria is (EF, GPM, warranty).
4JUN2011 - UPDATE: Instead of commenting on each of the "BAD" reviews - I'm going to generalize based on their issues:
* Again - anyone claiming 2+ yrs ownership, take that to mean they have the "CR" not the "NR".
* Installation/Plumber - the absolute key to these products. If the installer doesn't know what they are doing, you'll not have a good experience. If done correctly, you should not have to wait more than 45s for hot water (even if recirc is off).
* If your installer is decent, you shouldn't be calling Navien direct, you call your installer/plumber to resolve your issue.
* You shouldn't have to "doubled" your piping for recirc ... that's a good salesman to sell you that with this unit.
* If you do have a dedicated recirculation line and it's not working correctly - the installer is an idiot and doesn't know the system.
* Bootleg units, doubt it. That "NAVIEN" employee is full of crap. Anyone can purchase just about anything from distributors and resell.
* I have a SINGLE NR with 4 family members (sometimes 5... 3/4 female ... 2/3 of those ...

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10/14/2011

Rinnai RC80HPi Indoor Natural Gas Condensing Tankless Water Heater, 8.1 GPM Review

Rinnai RC80HPi Indoor Natural Gas Condensing Tankless Water Heater, 8.1 GPM
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This is the second tankless unit I've installed (the first was a Rheem unit bought at HD) and by far the easier of the two to install. The main differences between this and the Rheem - with a condensing unit you need to plumb in a condensing pump. The Rheem unit has an external keypad that has to be wired while the Rinnai's control unit is built into the face. And the most significant is the plastic duct in the Rinnai rather than the stainless steel for the Rheem. This unit conveniently comes with a full-size paper diagram to determine placement of the unit which is a plus. Everything is fairly straight forward - however the installation manual really isn't written for a consumer while the Rheem unit is written with step-by-step instructions that are easier to understand. The Rinnai manual boils down to safety verbiage and a schematic-like diagram. If I hadn't already installed one I think it would have been more difficult to do so, but I already understood the context from the previous install - this pushed my rating downward. This unit is normally installed by Rinnai crews via their system of certified installers - so I'm assuming the manual is written with them in mind rather than a casual consumer - something to keep in mind.
The default thermostat setting will probably be too low for most US residents - I upped it to 120 degrees. Due to some extra piping the hot water takes longer to get to the spigot - the only thing my wife complains about. Otherwise it's hot and continuous, just as advertised. There are only two of us in a 2400 sq ft home with 2 full baths. In the summer my gas bill is around $33 and fairly consistent (most of the bill is made up of the regular monthly minimum charges). After installation my bills went to $27 so having the unit has decreased by gas usage. My previous water heater was a 50 gallon tanked unit that was installed in the mid 90s (so about 15 years old). I replaced it due to leaking. The hardest part of the install was getting through the block wall and really, it wasn't that bad.
One thing to consider is your exhaust pipe run - the units that require stainless steel can make this part of the install quite expensive. Due to the plastic piping that can be used with condensing units, you can save quite a lot of the costs by going this route (more expensive unit but cheaper ducting). If you have a long run from the unit placement to an outside wall,this can be significant.

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* Qualifies For Federal Tax Credit * ENERGY STAR qualified * Up to 95% thermal efficiency * Condensing technology for greater efficiency and significant energy savings * Capacity to supply continuous hot water simultaneously to multiple plumbing demands * Significant space savings over tank-style water heaters * More sanitary hot water * Long-lasting design and reduced risk of flooding * Available in Natural Gas or Propane(email for LP availability * Flexible indoor installation options * Meets California and Texas NOx Emission Rules * 12-year heat exchanger limited warranty for residential installations (5 years on parts, 1 year on labor) * Pair up with an air handler for efficient home heating

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10/08/2011

Rheem Outdoor Liquid Propane Tankless Water Heater for 2-3 Bathroom Homes - RTG-66XP Review

Rheem Outdoor Liquid Propane Tankless Water Heater for 2-3 Bathroom Homes - RTG-66XP
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We have a 2200 sq foot home which had the hot water tank 40 feet from the kitchen and 70 feet from the master bath so it always took a full minute and many wasted gallons of water to get something hot. With the floor plan relocating an indoor tank to the center of the house was not ideal though the indoor tankless would have been an option but I did not want to deal with the work of the air intake and chimney install.
The information on the Rheem outdoor tankless was mixed and stated that is was good to -30 and yet elsewhere I saw it listed at 30. That said, the -30 was on their website so we decided to go with it. Upon receiving it and the additional grey pipe cover which was not sold here at Amazon. I did find and buy it at Wholesale America and it is definitely something you'll need to make this a clean install.
SKU: RTG20169XG Weight: 9 lbs Rheem RTG20169XG Grey Pipe Covers for the RTG66-X $64.29
After installing my pipes, gas and electric I insulated this cover with hard Styrofoam and of course also ran a heat tape on the pipes coming out and going in. In mounting this tank to the house, I stayed low and used a 2.5" hole saw to make 5 holes through to the crawl space which will allow more of that warmth to access the now insulated pipe cover.
It is still early November in Kansas and if any problems develop during the colder parts of winter, I will update this posting.
As far as the tank and how it works, it is wonderful! We are using propane from a 1000 gallon tank and as with most of these installs, the tank has a first stage regulator and then at the house is a second stage. We have a gas furnace, dryer, stove and now this higher Btu hot water tank so I was naturally concerned that I might need to install a tee and place a second second stage regulator at the house and then run a dedicated line to the new water heater. I opted to try and tap into the lines using the appropriate flex pipe for high volume and it worked out just fine with only the one regulator. We tested this by running the furnace, dryer, oven and burners while running hot water. By holding a meat thermometer in the stream of hot water while the tank thermostat was set at 120F, I had a steady reading of 119 and when set at 130 I had 129 which means one or the other of these is off a wee little bit but the tank produces the hot water as it should! How cool is that?
With regard to the remote thermostat that you'll get with this... it only goes up to 120F until you bypass that if you want to go to 125, 130, 135 or 140. The instruction sheet that came with our tank was confusing and instructed me to open the tank cover and switch a dip switch and push a button and watch for a flashing light etc. Please don't waste your time!! I called their 800 number and talked to somebody in 'trouble shooting' and she instructed me to simply go to the thermostat and with it set at 120, hold the 'temp up' key until 140 pops up. Then I think she said to hold both up and down keys and that would lock me into the higher temp settings. You can then adjust in 5 degree increments and we chose 130 because we have a dishwasher and no little ones in the house.
The unit works well delivering endless supplies of hot water and is very quiet not that it matters outside!


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10/05/2011

Eccotemp 40HI-NG Indoor Gas Tankless Water Heater, 135,000 British Thermal Unit Review

Eccotemp 40HI-NG Indoor Gas Tankless Water Heater, 135,000 British Thermal Unit
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I'd give the unit itself a 5-star, but the amount of water I have to use made me bump it down to 3 stars.
This model is a good tankless water heater. However, if you are looking to save water, tankless is probably not the way to go. You have to have the hot water tap going full throttle at all times in order for the heating mechanism (a spin wheel of sorts) to trip on and start heating the water. You have to run the water for about 30-60 seconds before you will get hot water, too. I live in an old, old house and there is a certain order I have to turn on the various faucetts in the bathroom in order for me to have hot water for the entirety of my shower. (I'm guessing this is a water pressure thing having to do with antiquidated or poorly installed plumbing.) Also, since it has an electronic display, you will need a batter backup in order to have hot water when the electricity goes out (which happens all too regularly where I live). I feel like the energy savings are negligible because of the hoops I have to jump through in order to keep hot water constant.


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Stop throwing away money each and every month with your old inefficient storage tank water heater! It is time to switch to an Eccotemp tankless water heater. The Eccotemp 40HI is one of the most affordable and reliable true whole house tankless water heaters on the market! Rated at 6.3 GPM, it is the ideal choice for a 3 bedroom, 2 bath home. Why Eccotemp Tankless Water Heaters? Energy Efficiency: Saving you money each and every month. Instead of a standing pilot light, gas is only used when there is a demand for hot water. This will result in most homes of an average savings of 20-40% off of your utility bill Saving Space: Weighing only 38 pounds and about the size of a briefcase, you will free up an average of 9 square feet of floor space - adding to the value of your home! Reliability: Eccotemp 40 series water heaters come with a 10 year warranty on the heat exchanger and an average life expectancy of 20 years. And, since there is no standing water, you will never have to worry about a ruptured tank again! Consult with your home owners insurance on additional rebates. Technical Specs and data: * Gas Type: Natural Gas * Gas Inlet: 3/4 inch * Water Inlet: 1/2 inch * Water Outlet: 1/2 inch * Power Supply: 110 volt * Energy Factor: 0.83 * Indoor mount Flow Chart/Temperature Rise/Delta T: * 35 Degrees F: 6.0 GPM * 45 Degrees F: 4.57 GPM (avg. rise in most Southern climates) * 65 Degrees F: 3.82 GPM (avg. rise in most Northern climates) * 77 Degrees F: 2.6 GPM

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9/14/2011

Eccotemp 40HI-LP Indoor Propane Tankless Water Heater, 135,000 British Thermal Unit Review

Eccotemp 40HI-LP Indoor Propane Tankless Water Heater, 135,000 British Thermal Unit
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OVERVIEW: In theory, this unit has the potential to save a few $$ on your gas bill, but it may increase your water bill since it takes a bit longer than normal to deliver hot water at the rated temperature. The unit starts as soon as the water flow sensor detects water flow, but the starting cycle takes a bit too long than desired, thus the amount of water being wasted waiting on the hot water was a bit to much in my opinion. INSTALLATION: Other than some minor modification to the existing water and gas piping, the installation process was fairly easy. Anyone with with basic pluming skills can perform the installation. MANUAL: I did encounter a few problems that I wish it was addressed in the installation manual. For example, the manual fails to mention the maximum distance that the unit can be placed from the gas meter cannot exceed 38 feet and that each elbow in the piping will decrease this distance by four feet. This info was disclosed to me, by customer service, when the unit kept error-ing out during start up and after numerous calls and emails back and forth. CUSTOMER SERVICE: This has probably been the best part of my entire experience. Customer service has been very supportive and courteous. They made me feel very comfortable by establishing an open avenue of communication and by providing me with the extra information not listed in the manual. OVERALL: the overall experience with the unit has been satisfactory from installation to operation. As for the savings in the gas, it's too early to tell. I will monitor my gas bill fro the next few months and see if it was worth it.

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Stop throwing away money each and every month with your old inefficient storage tank water heater! It is time to switch to an Eccotemp tankless water heater. The Eccotemp 40HI is one of the most affordable and reliable true whole house tankless water heaters on the market! Rated at 6.3 GPM, it is the ideal choice for a 3 bedroom, 2 bath home. Why Eccotemp Tankless Water Heaters? Energy Efficiency: Saving you money each and every month. Instead of a standing pilot light, gas is only used when there is a demand for hot water. This will result in most homes of an average savings of 20-40% off of your utility bill Saving Space: Weighing only 38 pounds and about the size of a briefcase, you will free up an average of 9 square feet of floor space - adding to the value of your home! Reliability: Eccotemp 40 series water heaters come with a 10 year warranty on the heat exchanger and an average life expectancy of 20 years. And, since there is no standing water, you will never have to worry about a ruptured tank again! Consult with your home owners insurance on additional rebates. Technical Specs and data: * Gas Type: Liquid Propane * Gas Inlet: 3/4 inch * Water Inlet: 1/2 inch * Water Outlet: 1/2 inch * Power Supply: 110 volt * Energy Factor: 0.83 * Indoor mount Flow Chart/Temperature Rise/Delta T: * 35 Degrees F: 6.0 GPM * 45 Degrees F: 4.57 GPM (avg. rise in most Southern climates) * 65 Degrees F: 3.82 GPM (avg. rise in most Northern climates) * 77 Degrees F: 2.6 GPM

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9/13/2011

Rheem RTG-64DVN Direct Vent Indoor Series Natural Gas Tankless Water Heater, 6.4 GPM Review

Rheem RTG-64DVN Direct Vent Indoor Series Natural Gas Tankless Water Heater, 6.4 GPM
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bought it directly from the rheem factory and had it installed the next day, it ran for about 20 hours before the circuit board went out..the water heater it replaced lasted twenty three years and now this new indoor Rheem couldnt even make it one day...SAD..im just glad its under warranty..so far they fixed me up without a problem and its still running great but now im wondering how long it will run after this fix..
pros..constant hot water when taking shower, low gas bill, tax rebate, small
cons...cost a fortune to install whether ur a diy or have it done professionally, makes clicking noises when shutting off and turning on, complicated to the extreme..lot of parts inside that may break..i.e. circuit board,fan,igniter, remote panel, heat exchanger, sensors out the wazzooADDED... JUNE 13 2011 This is awsome i love it!! lowest water bill ive ever had 17 bucks! yea i know the circuit board went out but it hasnt gave me a problem since and i love how the hot water never runs out. TOTALLY SATISFIED

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9/03/2011

Rheem RTG-95DVN Direct Vent Indoor Series Natural Gas Tankless Water Heater, 9.5 GPM Review

Rheem RTG-95DVN Direct Vent Indoor Series Natural Gas Tankless Water Heater, 9.5 GPM
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My traditional tank heater was on its last leg, and I knew it would need to be replaced. I had been looking into tankless models for while. After considering multiple brands with comparable maximum flow rates, I bought the Rheem RTG-95DVN. Key reasons I settled on this model? It had among the lowest minimum activation flow rates, which seems to prevent the so-called cold water sandwich I've heard people complain about. I've done everything I can think of to force this "cold sandwich" to happen, and it just won't seem to happen with this particular tankless model, which is just fine by me. Also, this model does not require the expensive adapter almost all other models require to connect the unit to the stainless steel concentric vent piping.
Installation costs aside, I love this new water heater. For good measure, I had the installer set the thermostat at 130 (10 degrees above the factory setting). For the first time in a long time I do not have to worry about running out of hot water. The water is more than hot enough, even with at least one major appliance pulling hot water at the same time the shower is going. We have not yet exceeded its ability to produce hot water for multiple outlets.
And yes, I also love having the extra room for storage that the traditional hot water heater occupied.

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Rheem RTG-95DVN Tankless Indoor Direct Vent Natural Gas Water HeaterTankless 95 water heaters provides all the hot water you'll ever need for 2 - 3 bathroom homes or more.Rheem tankless gas water heaters offer you the perfect solution to heat your water at home. Imagine never running out of hot water again. Rheem provides to you innovative, new tankless products that provide a contionous supply of hot water from energy efficient and space saving design units.Rheem RTG-95DVN Tankless Indoor Direct Vent Natural Gas Water Heater Features:; ALL THE HOT WATER YOU'LL EVER NEED: when you need it. It's that simple. The popularity of oversize tubs is growing, and so is the demand for large volumes of low-cost hot water. The Rheem Tankless provides a compact solution for a continuous supply of energy-efficient hot water that won't run out.; ENERGY-EFFICIENT DESIGN: low-cost operation. Why keep 40-50 gallons of water hot when you don't need it? It's expensive to continue to heat and re-heat water when you're not home or not using it. Rheem's tankless design offers convenience without the high cost of keeping water hot.; COMPACT SIZE: good things do come in small packages. Rheem Tankless is about one third the size of a conventional water heater. Sophisticated technology has reduced the size and increased the features and benefits. A digital display makes setting a precise water temperature, or monitoring the unit's status, a snap! Its compact size will leave room for a water softener or extra storage.; PRECISE TEMPERATURE CONTROL Many user and installer-friendly features make the Rheem Tankless the easiest tankless water heater to own. The digital display makes it simple to set the water temperature. Simply set the desired temperature and walk away. Because the water is heated only when it is needed, the outgoing water temperature remains constant.; SELF-DIAGNOSTIC Should maintenance be required, the unit's self-diagnostic system will display a maintenance code, whi

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